Logo Final Board of Examiners' Meeting
held in the Tutors' Virtual Meeting Room
on
11 March 2004 from 16:30 to 17:00

School of Crystallography, Birkbeck College, University of London


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16:19:06  JKC connects. 16:29:42  PB connects. 16:35:16  ANF connects.

16:35:16
JKC          Tutors       HTTP    16m 10s   5m 43s
PB           Common       HTTP     5m 34s    5m 7s
Wizard       Common       HTTP     3m 27s      42s
ANF          PD           HTTP         0s       0s
16:35:50  JKC says "Hello"
16:35:58  ANF says "Hi, I'm here"
16:36:16  PB says "Hello"
16:36:25  JKC says "And Paul is now here - his account didn't have the key"
16:36:29  ANF says "First time I've used this thing"
16:36:46  JKC says "You'll get used to it"
16:37:16  JKC says "The web page for discussion is http://pd.cryst.bbk.ac.uk/pdroot/admin/y01/assess.htm#summary"
16:38:00  JKC says "I have had the numbers checked by Martin - there was a minor error that I have corrected"
16:38:33  ANF says "OK I've got it. I see the numbers have evolved. I'd printed out the older version"
16:38:37  JKC says "The conversion of the project marks to final mark is now 30% (and not 33% as I used earlier)"
16:39:32  JKC says "Martin also found one other minor error near the top that had little effect as it concerned a student who had dropped out"
16:39:50  JKC says "The easiest thing to do is to discuss each candidate in turn"
16:40:11  ANF says "Hang on, I think last year's marks have come up"
16:40:29  JKC says "Oops - earlier web link was wrong!"
16:40:44  JKC says "I should have typed y02 - will reset link"
16:41:05  JKC says "http://pd.cryst.bbk.ac.uk/pdroot/admin/y02/assess.htm#summary"
16:41:27  ANF says "OK now"
16:41:34  JKC says "That's better!"
16:41:50  JKC says "OK - First student is Antoine Barnabe"
16:42:22  JKC says "He did well on coursework and examination, but not so well on the project"
16:43:10  JKC says "I therefore propose that he be passed with merit as he scored > 60%"
16:43:12  ANF says "Yes"
16:43:38  JKC says "Ok with you Paul?"
16:43:39  PB says "Agreed"
16:43:43  ANF says "Can you remind me of the usual levels for merit, distinction etc."
16:44:13  JKC says "Pass 50%, Merit 60%, Distinction 70%"
16:44:40  ANF says "OK, clear "merit" then"
16:44:43  JKC says "Ok - the next candidate is Bruce Csorba"
16:45:24  JKC says "He did OK on the coursework and examination, but"
16:45:30  ANF says "Pretty poor project has let him down"
16:45:39  JKC says "his project was very poor"
16:46:15  JKC says "He was given more time and never improved things very much. His initial draft project was dire"
16:46:25  ANF says "Is there any obvious (or not so obvious) reason for the poor project?"
16:46:40  JKC says "I had the impression that he had time problems - coursework always late, etc."
16:46:56  ANF says "Sounds like he had a chance to sort things out."
16:47:16  ANF says "But didn't"
16:47:17  JKC says "As a result, I think he never had time to try things and it can be quite time-consuming learning Rietveld as a beginner"
16:47:42  JKC says "There is a limit how far one should go with giving help"
16:48:24  JKC says "It is regrettable, but I have to suggest fail here, but one can give a certificate of attendance."
16:48:43  PB says "If he had the chance to rectify, then it doesn't seem harsh"
16:48:57  ANF says "I think that's the only correct option."
(The MUD Wizard enters the room around this time!)
16:49:26  ANF says "Who is wizard?"
16:50:00  JKC says "Wizard is one of the network managers - he was checking that Paul's key worked"
16:50:21  JKC says "Only tutors with the Master key can enter this room"
16:50:39  JKC says "OK if all agreed, next candidate"
16:50:53  ANF says "Anyway he seems to have vanished. So I agree, Fail but given the certificate of attendance"
16:51:10  JKC says "Nikos Kourkoumelis was the keenest student of 2002/3"
16:51:39  JKC says "He did well on the coursework and very well on the project"
16:52:04  JKC says "but when it came to the written examination, he didn't answer all the questions"
16:52:20  JKC says "as a result, his maximum score on the paper was somewaht limited"
16:53:11  JKC says "My suggestion is therefore that he be given an ordinary pass"
16:53:19  ANF says "He would look like a straight pass to me"
16:53:32  ANF says "Beat me to it."
16:53:32  PB says "agreed"
16:53:39  ANF says "Agreed"
16:54:04  JKC says "Agree - there is always the question of whether he had help with the project or whether an examination in English under time pressure was difficult for him"
16:54:28  JKC says "OK - if all agreed, next case."
16:54:53  JKC says "The next student is Oladipo Omotoso from Canada"
16:55:00  ANF says "OK"
16:55:34  PB says "Seems straightforward distinction, albeit a high one"
16:55:39  ANF says "Looks to have done pretty well"
16:55:48  JKC says "His marks were outstanding - presume he is aiming to be a professional crystallographer"
16:56:33  JKC says "He was very sharp and quick to comment on any errors/ambiguities in the course material."
16:56:57  JKC says "So I suggest Pass with Distinction"
16:57:00  PB says "He asked many tricky questions"
16:57:06  ANF says "I agree"
16:57:23  PB says "agreed"
16:57:41  JKC says "OK - final student is Elliot Owens"
16:58:00  JKC says "His company closed (or at least the research section did)"
16:58:19  JKC says "As a result he had to drop out as he was looking for a job in another area"
16:58:52  JKC says "As he dropped out before completing the coursework I feel that we cannot offer even a certificate of attendance in this case"
16:59:05  JKC says "I therefore propose a straight fail"
16:59:16  ANF says "I agree, he's not done enough"
16:59:46  PB says "By the rules that's all he can expect"
17:00:00  JKC says "I don't think he will be upset - he had accepted the change in career direction"
17:00:33  ANF says "OK"
17:00:34  JKC says "OK, that's all - I will prepare a formal table of results, and print it for you Andy to sign"
17:00:55  JKC says "If you can get it back to me, I can then pass it to Registry"
17:01:06  JKC says "Any other points?"
17:01:28  PB says "No all seems fine and straightforward"
17:01:34  ANF says "Is that by the traditional pen-and-ink method or can I sign it digitally (like my French tax form)?"
17:01:57  JKC says "Pen and Ink :-("
17:02:05  ANF says "OK all seems fine to me"
17:02:18  JKC says "I'm not sure how to set up a digital version...."
17:02:34  JKC says "OK - thanks to all for attending"
17:02:48  PB says "Cheers, Paul"
17:02:48  JKC says "Look forward to seeing you at the BCA Andy"
17:02:57  JKC says "Bye"
17:03:07  ANF says "OK bye everyone....off to the ESRF squash tournament...see you at BCA"
17:03:30  PB disconnects.
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ANF          Tutors       HTTP    28m 14s      23s
17:03:54  ANF disconnects.
17:04:10  JKC disconnects.
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