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16:19:06 JKC connects.
16:29:42 PB connects.
16:35:16 ANF connects.
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JKC Tutors HTTP 16m 10s 5m 43s
PB Common HTTP 5m 34s 5m 7s
Wizard Common HTTP 3m 27s 42s
ANF PD HTTP 0s 0s
16:35:50 JKC says "Hello"
16:35:58 ANF says "Hi, I'm here"
16:36:16 PB says "Hello"
16:36:25 JKC says "And Paul is now here - his account didn't have the key"
16:36:29 ANF says "First time I've used this thing"
16:36:46 JKC says "You'll get used to it"
16:37:16 JKC says "The web page for discussion is http://pd.cryst.bbk.ac.uk/pdroot/admin/y01/assess.htm#summary"
16:38:00 JKC says "I have had the numbers checked by Martin - there was a minor error that I have corrected"
16:38:33 ANF says "OK I've got it. I see the numbers have evolved. I'd printed out the older version"
16:38:37 JKC says "The conversion of the project marks to final mark is now 30% (and not 33% as I used earlier)"
16:39:32 JKC says "Martin also found one other minor error near the top that had little effect as it concerned a student who had dropped out"
16:39:50 JKC says "The easiest thing to do is to discuss each candidate in turn"
16:40:11 ANF says "Hang on, I think last year's marks have come up"
16:40:29 JKC says "Oops - earlier web link was wrong!"
16:40:44 JKC says "I should have typed y02 - will reset link"
16:41:05 JKC says "http://pd.cryst.bbk.ac.uk/pdroot/admin/y02/assess.htm#summary"
16:41:27 ANF says "OK now"
16:41:34 JKC says "That's better!"
16:41:50 JKC says "OK - First student is Antoine Barnabe"
16:42:22 JKC says "He did well on coursework and examination, but not so well on the project"
16:43:10 JKC says "I therefore propose that he be passed with merit as he scored > 60%"
16:43:12 ANF says "Yes"
16:43:38 JKC says "Ok with you Paul?"
16:43:39 PB says "Agreed"
16:43:43 ANF says "Can you remind me of the usual levels for merit, distinction etc."
16:44:13 JKC says "Pass 50%, Merit 60%, Distinction 70%"
16:44:40 ANF says "OK, clear "merit" then"
16:44:43 JKC says "Ok - the next candidate is Bruce Csorba"
16:45:24 JKC says "He did OK on the coursework and examination, but"
16:45:30 ANF says "Pretty poor project has let him down"
16:45:39 JKC says "his project was very poor"
16:46:15 JKC says "He was given more time and never improved things very much. His initial draft project was dire"
16:46:25 ANF says "Is there any obvious (or not so obvious) reason for the poor project?"
16:46:40 JKC says "I had the impression that he had time problems - coursework always late, etc."
16:46:56 ANF says "Sounds like he had a chance to sort things out."
16:47:16 ANF says "But didn't"
16:47:17 JKC says "As a result, I think he never had time to try things and it can be quite time-consuming learning Rietveld as a beginner"
16:47:42 JKC says "There is a limit how far one should go with giving help"
16:48:24 JKC says "It is regrettable, but I have to suggest fail here, but one can give a certificate of attendance."
16:48:43 PB says "If he had the chance to rectify, then it doesn't seem harsh"
16:48:57 ANF says "I think that's the only correct option."
(The MUD Wizard enters the room around this time!)
16:49:26 ANF says "Who is wizard?"
16:50:00 JKC says "Wizard is one of the network managers - he was checking that Paul's key worked"
16:50:21 JKC says "Only tutors with the Master key can enter this room"
16:50:39 JKC says "OK if all agreed, next candidate"
16:50:53 ANF says "Anyway he seems to have vanished. So I agree, Fail but given the certificate of attendance"
16:51:10 JKC says "Nikos Kourkoumelis was the keenest student of 2002/3"
16:51:39 JKC says "He did well on the coursework and very well on the project"
16:52:04 JKC says "but when it came to the written examination, he didn't answer all the questions"
16:52:20 JKC says "as a result, his maximum score on the paper was somewaht limited"
16:53:11 JKC says "My suggestion is therefore that he be given an ordinary pass"
16:53:19 ANF says "He would look like a straight pass to me"
16:53:32 ANF says "Beat me to it."
16:53:32 PB says "agreed"
16:53:39 ANF says "Agreed"
16:54:04 JKC says "Agree - there is always the question of whether he had help with the project or whether an examination in English under time pressure was difficult for him"
16:54:28 JKC says "OK - if all agreed, next case."
16:54:53 JKC says "The next student is Oladipo Omotoso from Canada"
16:55:00 ANF says "OK"
16:55:34 PB says "Seems straightforward distinction, albeit a high one"
16:55:39 ANF says "Looks to have done pretty well"
16:55:48 JKC says "His marks were outstanding - presume he is aiming to be a professional crystallographer"
16:56:33 JKC says "He was very sharp and quick to comment on any errors/ambiguities in the course material."
16:56:57 JKC says "So I suggest Pass with Distinction"
16:57:00 PB says "He asked many tricky questions"
16:57:06 ANF says "I agree"
16:57:23 PB says "agreed"
16:57:41 JKC says "OK - final student is Elliot Owens"
16:58:00 JKC says "His company closed (or at least the research section did)"
16:58:19 JKC says "As a result he had to drop out as he was looking for a job in another area"
16:58:52 JKC says "As he dropped out before completing the coursework I feel that we cannot offer even a certificate of attendance in this case"
16:59:05 JKC says "I therefore propose a straight fail"
16:59:16 ANF says "I agree, he's not done enough"
16:59:46 PB says "By the rules that's all he can expect"
17:00:00 JKC says "I don't think he will be upset - he had accepted the change in career direction"
17:00:33 ANF says "OK"
17:00:34 JKC says "OK, that's all - I will prepare a formal table of results, and print it for you Andy to sign"
17:00:55 JKC says "If you can get it back to me, I can then pass it to Registry"
17:01:06 JKC says "Any other points?"
17:01:28 PB says "No all seems fine and straightforward"
17:01:34 ANF says "Is that by the traditional pen-and-ink method or can I sign it digitally (like my French tax form)?"
17:01:57 JKC says "Pen and Ink :-("
17:02:05 ANF says "OK all seems fine to me"
17:02:18 JKC says "I'm not sure how to set up a digital version...."
17:02:34 JKC says "OK - thanks to all for attending"
17:02:48 PB says "Cheers, Paul"
17:02:48 JKC says "Look forward to seeing you at the BCA Andy"
17:02:57 JKC says "Bye"
17:03:07 ANF says "OK bye everyone....off to the ESRF squash tournament...see you at BCA"
17:03:30 PB disconnects.
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